Friday, March 2, 2007

Cheney's Role In 9/11 Events Raises Questions, and Some Incredible Speculation


By Sherwood Ross

Although the official 9/11 Commission Report(CR) said Vice President Richard Cheney did not arrive at the Presidential Emergency Operations Center(PEOC) under the White House until "shortly before 10 a.m." that tragic day, Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta testified when he arrived in the room at 9:20 a.m. Cheney was already there. (CR published no testimony from Mineta.)

The timeline is important because if Cheney arrived at 10 a.m. it would have been about 20 minutes after the Pentagon was allegedly struck by a hijacked airplane at 9:38 a.m., too late for him to authorize the Air Force to shoot it down. Some 125 Pentagon employees perished in the attack.

Mineta testified "during the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, 'the plane is 50 miles out, the plane is 30 miles out.' And when it got to 'the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the Vice President...said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"

Since the airplane was not intercepted and destroyed, even though the vice president knew of it, "the orders" may have been to allow the plane to hit the Pentagon. All of this, and more, is contained in the March/April issue of "Tikkun" magazine, "a bimonthly Jewish critique of Politics, Culture & Society." The piece was authored by Dr. David Ray Griffin, a principal debunker of the accepted 9/11 dogma, and published by Rabbi Michael Lerner on grounds, "if his view is true, the position he articulates would provide adequate grounds for impeachment of the president..."

In Griffin's view, "the strike on the Pentagon was orchestrated by forces within our own government." If he's right, 9/11 was, indeed, the crime of the century, and what has been called a false flag operation involving the fabrication of evidence to make it appear the Taliban government of Afghanistan was complicit, paving the road for invasion.

To begin with, there's even a question of whether American Airlines Flight 77 under control of Al-Qaeda hijacker Hani Hanjour struck the Pentagon. It would require, Griffin charges, not only outfoxing military radar for over an hour but the quite miraculous performance of descending 7,000 feet in two minutes while executing a 270-degree banked turn and bashing into the Pentagon without touching or damaging the lawn, a feat of aeronautical magic.

Griffin, a professor of philosophy and theology at Claremont Graduate University, Calif., says the impact of the strike, unlike those of the two planes that struck the Twin Towers, did not create a dectactable seismic signal. "Also, according to photographs and eywitnesses, the kind of damage and debris that would have been produced by the impact of a Boeing 757 was not evident in the aftermath of the strike on the Pentagon."

Karen Kwiatkowski, then an Air Force Lieutenant Colonel employed at the Pentagon, writes of "a strange lack of visibile debris on the Pentagon lawn, where I stood only moments after the impact." Another witness was CNN's Jamie McIntyre, who reported live from the Pentagon that day: "The only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you pick up in your hand." (How does that square with any photos you've ever seen of crashed airliners?)
Griffin also quotes retired pilot Ralph Omholt, discussing the photographic evidence, who said, "There is no hole big enough to swallow a 757... There is no viable evidence of burning jet fuel... The expected 'crash' damage doesn't exist...Even the Pentagon lawn was undamaged!" So it may have been more than just a slip of the tongue when Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld blurted about the "missile" that hit the Pentagon.

The CR report alleged there was no warning of an unidentified aircraft heading to Washington until 9:36 a.m., only "one or two minutes" before the Pentagon was struck, yet Mineta said Cheney knew of it at least 10 minutes earlier, time to order an evacuation.
"By omitting Mineta's testimony and stating that Cheney did not enter the PEOC until almost 10 a.m., the 9/11 Commission implied that Cheney could not have given a stand-down order to allow an aircraft to strike the Pentagon," Griffin writes.

The author goes on to say, CR's conclusion "contradicts Cheney's own account, which can still be read on the White House Website. Speaking on NBC's "Meet the Press" shortly after 9/11 Cheney said: '(A)fter I talked to the president...I went down into...the Presidential Emergency Operations Center...(W)hen I arrived there within a short order, we had word the Pentagon's been hit.' So he got there, as Mineta said, some time before the Pentagon was struck, not 20 minutes afterwards."

Griffin asserts the public has been fed three different yarns about why Flight 77 was not intercepted before hitting the Pentagon. Initially, military officials said no fighter jets were scrambled until after the Pentagon was hit; next, they said fighters were scrambled but did not arrive in time because of late FAA notification; finally, the CR found the FAA did not notify NORAD until after the planes crashed.

Particularly curious is that the FBI "immediately confiscated videos from security cameras on nearby buildings," and destroyed crash evidence, Griffin said. "After the strike, officials picked up debris in front of the impact site and carried it off. Shortly thereafter the entire lawn was covered with dirt and gravel, so that any remaining forensic evidence was literally covered up."

Griffin's views are akin to those published on Internet site "Scholars for 9/11 Truth," which has joined with Judicial Watch in calling for release of documents and physical evidence related to 9/11. The group's cofounder, James Fetzer, McKnight Professor of Philosophy Emeritus at the University of Minnesota, calls Mineta's testimony "devastating."

"It pulls the plug on the Commission's contention there was no advance warning that the Pentagon was going to be hit," Fetzer said. "In fact, there are multiple witnesses who contradict the Vice President's account, including Richard Clarke, Condoleeza Rice, and several others. It had to have been a 'stand down' order, but the mere fact that he knew the plane was coming in and did not warn the Pentagon is proof this was an inside job," Fetzer said.

Philip J. Berg, former Pennsylvania deputy attorney general and member of Scholars, added, "Those who made it happen were obviously in the position to know that it was going to happen and therefore could have sounded a warning alarm. The case against Cheney is more powerful than the case against (Zacarias) Moussaoui(for willfully concealing advanced knowledge of the forthcoming 9/11 attack). No one is more culpable than the perpetrators. If Moussaoui deserves the death penalty, what does our Vice President deserve?"

Fetzer said the government's case against the hijackers is counterfeit. "A growing body of evidence supports the inference that these 19 men were patsies for forces within the United States government."

Sherwood Ross is a Miami-based columnist, reporter, and publicist. Reach him at
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"during the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, 'the plane is 50 miles out, the plane is 30 miles out.' And when it got to 'the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the Vice President...said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"
Posted Mar 2, 2007 11:15 AM PST
Category: 911

Now, stop and think for a moment. This quote means , by virtue of giving a closing distance, THEY KNEW WHAT THE TARGET WAS GOING TO BE BEFORE THE PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON.

That is the significance of 'the plane is 50 miles out, the plane is 30 miles out.' They knew where the track was going to end!

So, Dick Cheney knew the plane was attacking the Pentagon. The young man asked 'Do the orders still stand?' But no order to intercept the incoming aircraft was ever given. So, the order left standing had to be NOT to intercept the incoming plane.


Reality Czech said...

The Capitol, White House and Pentagon are all relatively close together. An aircraft which is 50 miles away from any of them is roughly 50 miles away from all of them, and the rest of DC.

We can't conclude anything from these radar reports.

Anonymous said...

Much of the anti-conspracy argument seems based on the idea that "Oh no, they wouldn't do anything like that!" As if there cannot be evil men in our part of the world.

But what if they would? The world is full of countless examples of man's inhumanity to man on large and small scale, from every country, from every era.

What makes our country, our government, our era, immune to these kind of men?

Does democracy somehow cleanse a man's soul before he takes office?

Once you believe that there are people who could and would do this kind of thing, it is not hard to imagine that such people would occupy the halls of power.

Anonymous said...

We need a common enemy to unite us.~ Condoleezza Rice, March 2000

Anonymous said...

One gets the sense from other actions and reactions of the executive branch that they have been an active participant in the 9/11 attacks -

Why was George Bushs first post-911 act to help the primary terrorist suspects (the Saudis) flee the country at a time when plane travel was grounded for all other Americans?

Why did George Bush vow to prevent a 9/11 investigation from taking place? Why did he obstruct the investigation when the public outcry forced him to accept it? Why would he refuse to testify to the commission?

Why have emails regarding the incident, reports, and the like been destroyed illegally, or have simply gone missing? Why are both the President and VP both declaring that they don't have to abide by any laws anymore, even the US Constitution?

Why is what scant testimony both Cheney and Bush have provided been proven to be false according to multiple verified eyewitness testimony? Why are they lying about this, and what really happened?

These are not the actions of a President or VP who is leading and defending the nation, its the actions of terrorist collaborators who are plotting to kill the people they swore to serve.

"Oh they would never do such a thing to the American People!", you cry. That might be plausible if Bush and Cheney hadn't murdered nearly 1 million civilians, run a terrorist airline(rendition), torture centres, secret prisons, and have openly stated that they have the authority to order the abduction, torture, and secret execution of any American citizen they please - in secret, with no courts, evidence, jury, or smoking gun needed.

The lunatics and madmen are not the conspiracy theorists, its those evil people who praise these vile men as heroes, Christians, and champions of liberty when its clear they hate freedom, peace, life and all its institutions and incarnations.

Anonymous said...

About a year after it happened I came across this site: which suggests the damage to the Pentagon wasn't caused by a plane.

I sent the link to a friend of mine who's a military officer for his comment. By chance he knew someone who was working in the Pentagon on 9-11, and forwarded the link to that person. Here is the reply (copied directly from the email):

"From my friend who was working in Pentagon City when it happened

> In terms of the was definitely airplane fuel burning
> and the whole was definitely a plane and the folks I know driving saw
> the plane -- to be honest, pretty certain...also, I know two
> of the folks who died who were on the plane (including a friends
> wife)....

I tend to believe first-hand accounts rather than vague conspiracy theories.

Anonymous said...

First-hand accounts, sure, but what have we here? You know a military officer, who knows someone at Pentagon City, who knows people who were driving at such a time that they'd have first-hand experience. That would make the account second-hand, to you. And to us? It's third-hand hearsay, and all of it anonymous! Your link is more credible.

Anonymous said...

This is anti-american propaganda of the worst kind! When the twin towers fell, and when we were ATTAKED, BUSH and CHENEY were there, SAVING US, and this is how you repay them?! These men are HEROS, and to question them is treason! You should be ashamed!

Anonymous said...

"These men are HEROS, and to question them is treason! You should be ashamed!"

WTF? The freedom of speach and the freedom to think for ourselves is what makes America Great. To say that to question our president is treason, is treason in itself. You are saying that we should not have the freedom to speak. When we lose the right to speak our minds we lose everything. The people in this country are too easily offended and would rather give up their own freedom than accept that something negitive might have occured.

Regardless of what I believe, I will defend to the death the right of others to speak their minds. Without the freedom to speak our minds we will only be able to say one phrase.

Heil Hitler.